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i think clearly president obama missed the opportunity to do that during the debate. he kind of let mr. romney climb out of that kind of space that they had put him in, but there will be many other opportunities as we see the president's back strong on the stump hammering romney. there will be another debate. we forget it's a long time ago, mondale wins the first debate against reagan, reagan comes back and cleans his clock in the second one. john kerry in 2004, you remember, won the first debate, against george bush. george bush similarly seemed very unhappy to be there as the president. bush comes back in the second one and wins, goes on to win. so lots of opportunity for the president to come back. but clearly let romney back into this. >> i guess, sam, how far is mitt going to go towards the middle? i mean, bill brings up the question of reproductive rights, the obama care question is certainly still, you know, how much is mitt romney going to embrace massachusetts, his legacy there, in the coming weeks? it's a sharp pivot. >> wasn't just during the debate. he was
i think clearly president obama missed the opportunity to do that during the debate. he kind of let mr. romney climb out of that kind of space that they had put him in, but there will be many other opportunities as we see the president's back strong on the stump hammering romney. there will be another debate. we forget it's a long time ago, mondale wins the first debate against reagan, reagan comes back and cleans his clock in the second one. john kerry in 2004, you remember, won the first...
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when mitt romney beat president obama in last night's televised debate. so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are these years. so in terms of understanding the historical context of what happened last night when mitt romney beat president obama in this first debate, this is the universe of like things to compare it to. this is how to understand it in terms of american political history. it's only these years right here. that's it. now, by definition, you never have an incumbent president in this situation more than once. presidents can only serve two terms so there's only one opportunity when they carry into that debate, when they're running for re-election, they carry into that
when mitt romney beat president obama in last night's televised debate. so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are...
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>> barack obama he and hiss choice would haven't the debate. after all today's polls are up nine points in ohio. it looks like these debates are just the rapids the president has to go through. if he didn't have them, it would be fair sailing. so for mitt romney, these debates are essential. he's going to have to show that he's presidential. so far when he went to the olympic and maybe gaffed and he stumbled with that 44%. they're not sure they can live with the guy for four years so mitt romney has to really be the one that comes out the winner. he's got to score. >> there was a time between the famous kennedy-nixon tapes that there were no televised debates. why are they considered so vital now? >> well, the kennedy-nixon debates created so much attention in 1960. many people think that's why ted kennedy won. if you recall ford made famously the gap that -- and then certainly by 1980, ronald reagan was very behind in the polls was just able to tidal wave over jimmy carter with quips like there you go again in a sort of staged format. since 19
>> barack obama he and hiss choice would haven't the debate. after all today's polls are up nine points in ohio. it looks like these debates are just the rapids the president has to go through. if he didn't have them, it would be fair sailing. so for mitt romney, these debates are essential. he's going to have to show that he's presidential. so far when he went to the olympic and maybe gaffed and he stumbled with that 44%. they're not sure they can live with the guy for four years so mitt...
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he did not control the debate at all. obama had much more time than romney. i think a couple of times, romney did sort of interrupt, but he had to. obama had been on for five minutes. i timed it myself. the other thing is that people are saying that romney did not lay out his agenda very well. i think he did. he explained what he wanted to do, 1, 2, 3, several times. the lady from florida said that he didn't explain what he was going to
he did not control the debate at all. obama had much more time than romney. i think a couple of times, romney did sort of interrupt, but he had to. obama had been on for five minutes. i timed it myself. the other thing is that people are saying that romney did not lay out his agenda very well. i think he did. he explained what he wanted to do, 1, 2, 3, several times. the lady from florida said that he didn't explain what he was going to
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. >> reporter: president obama and mr. romney actually have two debates remaining. one on october 16th on long island, and the last one six days later in florida. there's also one vice presidential debate a week from tonight in kentucky. derek. >> we'll be watching them all. cbs news has learned that investigators are looking into the possibility that a border patrol agent killed earlier this week died from friendly fire. nicholas ivie and two other agents came under attack just north of the border near birkz sbee, arizona. this word comes from mexican police as they've arrested two people. >>> d.c. police confirm they're investigating allegations that a guard sexually assaulted an inmate. sources tell wtop radio the allegations are that a guard removed an inmate from his cell, took him to an area where there are no security cameras and assaulted him. those sources also say a second guard witnessed the assault but did not report it. >>> tonight we've got a sketch of the man wanted for fondling at least five women in springfield. take a good look. the most recent att
. >> reporter: president obama and mr. romney actually have two debates remaining. one on october 16th on long island, and the last one six days later in florida. there's also one vice presidential debate a week from tonight in kentucky. derek. >> we'll be watching them all. cbs news has learned that investigators are looking into the possibility that a border patrol agent killed earlier this week died from friendly fire. nicholas ivie and two other agents came under attack just...
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>> bret: president obama and congressman paul ryan talking about the upcoming debate. just down the road in denver on wednesday. let's talk about that and some of the issues on the table. bring in the panel from washington. rick klein, senior washington editor for abc news. a.b. stoddard, associate editor of the hill. syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. charles, you heard the back and forth on the sunday shows. what about the setup to this debate? what needs to happen and what is being talked about? >> it looks ridiculous. each side is pretending that the other can't even speak english. obviously, i don't think it will have any effect. romney did do rather well in his debate. he got better. he's done a lot of them, but people are saying well, obama hand debated in all this time. obama is really good. he did come out of nowhere. he beat the clinton machine. he did it in part in his debate, oratory. he will be strong. his one weak point is he is thin skinned. you o the press conference. if romney can manage to get under his skin in some way, that happened in 2008.
>> bret: president obama and congressman paul ryan talking about the upcoming debate. just down the road in denver on wednesday. let's talk about that and some of the issues on the table. bring in the panel from washington. rick klein, senior washington editor for abc news. a.b. stoddard, associate editor of the hill. syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. charles, you heard the back and forth on the sunday shows. what about the setup to this debate? what needs to happen and what is...
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he did it brilliantly in this debate. >> why don't you go to work for romney since you work for obama? >> i'll see what happens going forward. too early to tell, john. >> really. >> absolutely. i've been a democrat all my life. >> what do you think? >> the first half-hour they talked about romney's tax cut plan which he cobbled together during the primaries, and he denied that it's going to cost $5 trillion over the next few years but it is going to tax the middle class more than the wealthy, according to the tax center, by $2,000 per household. on the clinton question, the clinton question, romney showed, like bill clinton energized the democratic con of earnings romney has energized his base that was about to abandon him, and he's shown that he's a contender. but the more the fact checkers, the more the debate goes on, the more people find -- >> you mean -- >> why wasn't obama the fact checker? >> do you mean obama is the incumbent? >> i thought i made that clear the first time around. it's not just tin come ben see, though. >> he's the president. >> john, have you forgotten all the
he did it brilliantly in this debate. >> why don't you go to work for romney since you work for obama? >> i'll see what happens going forward. too early to tell, john. >> really. >> absolutely. i've been a democrat all my life. >> what do you think? >> the first half-hour they talked about romney's tax cut plan which he cobbled together during the primaries, and he denied that it's going to cost $5 trillion over the next few years but it is going to tax the...
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we've soon barack obama debate better than he did tonight. has the presidency changed himself so much that he can't go back to being a good debater? this is what he's like now? >> that's the $64 question. if what we saw tonight is what we see in the next two debates, president obama is going to be in serious trouble. how is this going to play in ohio? he has to make the case to the middle class that he's headed in the right direction with the economy. >> not one time did he say i want the american people to know we've added private-sector jobs for the last 30 months and we're headed in the right direction. how hard is that to say? is that hard? >> ezra klein is coming up to check some of the money numbers that we did hear tonight. we're mad about the numbers that were not articulated as we check the one that were. our live coverage of the first presidential debate. stay with us. >> this tax plan. and now, five weeks before the election, he's saying that his big bold idea is, never mind. >> we'll focus on getting the cost of health care down.
we've soon barack obama debate better than he did tonight. has the presidency changed himself so much that he can't go back to being a good debater? this is what he's like now? >> that's the $64 question. if what we saw tonight is what we see in the next two debates, president obama is going to be in serious trouble. how is this going to play in ohio? he has to make the case to the middle class that he's headed in the right direction with the economy. >> not one time did he say i...
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how good a debater is he? >> he is very effective. he is terrific and he sat there fluently answering. >> paul: sunday on 60 minutes? >> because he had all this information and insight. that was really impressive. >> paul: do you think she more effective in an environment like that than he is on the stump? >> you can't be tricked in that kind of interview. you don't know what is coming. look at that in contrast what happened to the somewhat disastrous convention speech. before this debate he should be looking at these two speeches where the two opposite polls of success, convention speech where he was in his narrative, byograph and all the rest of it and he has to ask himself, what was made me to make me think this is effective. now everything matters. i have to say i am not going to be that person who wants to touch every base --. >> paul: satisfied voter groups, right, right. okay. campaign is leaking strategy, what mitt romney wants to call barack obama on his deceptions. my question is, is it smart to leak the strategy and is that
how good a debater is he? >> he is very effective. he is terrific and he sat there fluently answering. >> paul: sunday on 60 minutes? >> because he had all this information and insight. that was really impressive. >> paul: do you think she more effective in an environment like that than he is on the stump? >> you can't be tricked in that kind of interview. you don't know what is coming. look at that in contrast what happened to the somewhat disastrous convention...
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i watched obama debate alive in primaries when i was with clinton -- debate a lot in primaries. this is the guy that showed up. he is a good debater, but doesn't enjoy it. you look through this debate, ann romney looked like he enjoyed it and was having fun. obama just looked sort of sour and it was like another headache that he had to be there. romney support is needed to be reinvigorated. the question is, what did happen with the undecideds. is that enthusiasm going to spread out in terms of who is going to vote. >> was their body language that you noticed? >> i thought both of them behaved with considerable dignity and courtesy to each other, which people like. as meaghan pointed out, the president was continually looking down and sometimes had an expression on his face that seemed like a smirk. that never helps you. i thought governor romney's body language was pretty good, and the expression on his face this kind of a half smile, not a smirk, as he was looking at the president while he spoke. it was probably better than having him looking down. those observations on body la
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debate duel but the latest c.n.n. poll shows the incumbent has taken a beating artie's going to fall the debate. mr romney did seem more alert he actually did better than many thought he would considering all his gaffes and misfires in this election campaign he of course took advantage of the fact that the recovery under president obama has been slow the country is running to huge deficit gigantic debt more than sixteen trillion dollars that's one hundred four percent of the nation's g.d.p. the president's main argument was that mr romney wants to go back to the same policies that landed the u.s. and the world for that matter in the economic mess four years ago that everybody's still struggling to recover from so there was a lot of back and forth about who's going to be paying for what and how they both gave different numbers citing different studies at some point you guys kind of confusing but in general it looked as if one of them was saying he wants to raise taxes and the other one goes no he wants to raise taxes o
debate duel but the latest c.n.n. poll shows the incumbent has taken a beating artie's going to fall the debate. mr romney did seem more alert he actually did better than many thought he would considering all his gaffes and misfires in this election campaign he of course took advantage of the fact that the recovery under president obama has been slow the country is running to huge deficit gigantic debt more than sixteen trillion dollars that's one hundred four percent of the nation's g.d.p. the...
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the disparity led to a perception that president obama lost the debate. if you look at the commentary, not from the right, but people who love barack obama, almost every one of them, every pundit was saying that he lost. some saying he lost decisively. some saying he lost so badly, it could cost him the election. to me, it's hyperbolic. it speaks to the fact mitt romney changed the narrative of the campaign. >> what does it mean, jim, for mitt romney. if we accept he won the night last night, how does he make it about more than one night and a turning point in the campaign? >> i can't emphasize how big last night was for mitt romney. you have to view it from the mitt romney that came into the debate. conservatives were down on him. his staff were down on him. donors were reluctant to give money to him. most thought he had no opportunity to win the race. he comes out of the debate as somebody who reassured conservatives. his biggest critics are applauding him. the donors are excited again. republicans will gather around him. he has a week or two of positiv
the disparity led to a perception that president obama lost the debate. if you look at the commentary, not from the right, but people who love barack obama, almost every one of them, every pundit was saying that he lost. some saying he lost decisively. some saying he lost so badly, it could cost him the election. to me, it's hyperbolic. it speaks to the fact mitt romney changed the narrative of the campaign. >> what does it mean, jim, for mitt romney. if we accept he won the night last...
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tomorrow night, wednesday, the first of these four debates, three between mr. romney and mr. obama. tomorrow is the first that we will see them on the same stage. in advance of that debate tomorrow night, yesterday in "the wall street journal" mr. romney had a piece. the piece was titled "a new course for the middle east," but he raises some domestic issues, . "in recent years, president obama has allowed our leadership to atrophy. our economy is stuck in a recovery that is clearly deserves the name. our national debt has risen to record levels. our military tested by a decade of war is facing cuts based to that -- thanks to the budgetary games played by the white house. our values have been misunderstood by a president who thinks that weakness will win favor with our adversaries. by failing to maintain the elements of our influence and by stepping away from our allies, president obama has heightened the prospect of conflict and instability. he does not understand that an american policy that lets result can provoke a precedent and encouraged this order." two paris. let me take them
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president obama did not win the first debate against mitt romney. whether or not you're happy about that, he didn't win. but if your takeaway from this conspiracy theory in this debate is the reason the president didn't win is because mitt romney cheated, then what is the utility of that theory for you? what is the utility of that information? how do you think president obama should then prepare for the second debate? should he just do exactly what he did this past wednesday night, except keep a closer eye out for the cheating because that is the only reason he lost? i mean, it may be comforting to tell yourself this is what really went wrong here but that is not really what went wrong here, and making the case that it was what went wrong does not help your candidate. the worst example of this though, the invention of a comforting new parallel reality that does not mean you have to face hard truths. the worst new instance of this is how the right today responded to the new jobs numbers. today the unemployment rate dropped from 8.1% to 7.8%. it didn'
president obama did not win the first debate against mitt romney. whether or not you're happy about that, he didn't win. but if your takeaway from this conspiracy theory in this debate is the reason the president didn't win is because mitt romney cheated, then what is the utility of that theory for you? what is the utility of that information? how do you think president obama should then prepare for the second debate? should he just do exactly what he did this past wednesday night, except keep...
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the president has been described in past debates as no drama obama. and that is a compliment by the way. columnist jerry sibe in the "wall street journal" says that governor romney needs to counter that by creating his own drama. i'll quote jerry e. did that on at least one occasion during the primary season when in a high profile debate in florida he tphroers flee tk defended both his wealth and the way he acquired it and mocked former representative newt gingrich's dream of building a colony on the moon. you know, what brad that was the night, remember that night, that really ended gingrich's run and it cleared the way for romney's victoria tree. does governor romney tomorrow night need to pull off similar drama? >> i think he's got to be forceful, direct, yet respectful to the president. i happen to believe substance triumphs style every time. we saw the president recently get rattled when a univision presenter questioned the president respectfully but directly on immigration. the president was clearly annoyed. and i think romney to be effective mu
the president has been described in past debates as no drama obama. and that is a compliment by the way. columnist jerry sibe in the "wall street journal" says that governor romney needs to counter that by creating his own drama. i'll quote jerry e. did that on at least one occasion during the primary season when in a high profile debate in florida he tphroers flee tk defended both his wealth and the way he acquired it and mocked former representative newt gingrich's dream of building...
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obama injected race into the debate. by the way, in the end new orleans might not have paid anything under the stafford act. the situation is so muddled it's hard to know. you decide the validity of mr. obama's comments. here is the key question tonight. should mid romney refer to that race tape in order to demonstrate how the president is being divisive. the governor might also point to his speech he gave in 2002 when he went after wealthy americans. >> bill: that speech was at the university of chicago on martin luther king day. mr. obama framing his argument that day around the enron debacle where working americans got hosed by corporate gangsters. but once again the president used class warfare to make his points and he is right. the rich don't want people to take their stuff because the government has no right to do that. today, the obama campaign lashed out against the katrina criticism. >> mitt romney's allies in a desperate attempt to change the subject from a video in which mitt romney wrote off half of the amer
obama injected race into the debate. by the way, in the end new orleans might not have paid anything under the stafford act. the situation is so muddled it's hard to know. you decide the validity of mr. obama's comments. here is the key question tonight. should mid romney refer to that race tape in order to demonstrate how the president is being divisive. the governor might also point to his speech he gave in 2002 when he went after wealthy americans. >> bill: that speech was at the...
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now look, here's what president obama largely said during the debate. >> obama: uh uh. >> cenk: on the other hand president obama countered with this -- >> obama: uh uh -- uh, uh. >> cenk: so it wasn't about romney. unfortunately, it was president obama so he finds himself in the middle of the ring. but it wasn't so much romney up there. it was actually, unfortunately president obama himself. look you can't play prevent defense. yes, you have a huge lead. yes, i've talked about it but this is not the time to go soft. don't worry about what fox news is saying. don't worry about anything else. you go on the attack and stay on the attack and everybody don't panic, okay? they've run a brilliant campaign so far. this was a huge misstep but it doesn't mean anything overall. they
now look, here's what president obama largely said during the debate. >> obama: uh uh. >> cenk: on the other hand president obama countered with this -- >> obama: uh uh -- uh, uh. >> cenk: so it wasn't about romney. unfortunately, it was president obama so he finds himself in the middle of the ring. but it wasn't so much romney up there. it was actually, unfortunately president obama himself. look you can't play prevent defense. yes, you have a huge lead. yes, i've...
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i mean, look, obama mailed in that debate last night. and romney was on his game. there is no question about it. now, whether that was because obama thought he was going to have an easy run at it, i don't know. but the 47% has become so engrained and been so says tested and so negative for romney that you ought to use it it's as simple for that. >> bill: we know why he mailed in his game last night, the presidents, because one of the men that you idolize very much al gore told us it was just the elevation and the president was i guess didn't have enough oxygen and just couldn't get the energy level up. >> let's not waste our time on serious analysis with al gore's view about the air. >> bill: are you repudiating global warming? >> of course, not global warming but that idea is just superficial it's ridiculous. i want to congratulate you one thing on the 20 anniversary good call on your part. the bad call on your part is these debates are going to matter. there hasn't been a debate that has mattered since 1960 or maybe 1980. >> bill: bill different time. >> let me g
i mean, look, obama mailed in that debate last night. and romney was on his game. there is no question about it. now, whether that was because obama thought he was going to have an easy run at it, i don't know. but the 47% has become so engrained and been so says tested and so negative for romney that you ought to use it it's as simple for that. >> bill: we know why he mailed in his game last night, the presidents, because one of the men that you idolize very much al gore told us it was...
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can't debate so change numbers. and laura igraham says, job numbers from labor secretary hilda solis are total pro obama. congressman allen west challenged the numbers, quote, chicago style politics is at work here. and, of course, rush limbaugh took time to get unreal. >> it's no different than obama declaring the temperature is going to be 75 degrees every day no matter what your thermometer says. >> that's the problem with the right and that's the problem with governor romney. ey can't stand the truth. things are getting better. joining me now is joan walsh, editor at large for salon.com and an msnbc political analyst. and e.j. dionne, columnist for "the washington post" and an msnbc contributor. joan, let me start with you. what's behind these conspiracy theories? >> they just don't want to accept the realities that the president has made things better, reverend al. i think you forgot one. rush, when hurricane ivan was -- rush accused president obama of messing with the weather or the weather service. i'm not su
can't debate so change numbers. and laura igraham says, job numbers from labor secretary hilda solis are total pro obama. congressman allen west challenged the numbers, quote, chicago style politics is at work here. and, of course, rush limbaugh took time to get unreal. >> it's no different than obama declaring the temperature is going to be 75 degrees every day no matter what your thermometer says. >> that's the problem with the right and that's the problem with governor romney. ey...
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we're going to hear from michelle obama and ann romney on their debate advice. one of them gets moesh. we'll be right back. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my way into the venue, the candidate will be rehearsing off of his phone. [ candidate ] and thanks to every young face i see out there. [ woman ] his phone is one of his biggest supporters. [ female announcer ] with cisco at the center... working together has never worked so well. more than 50 times a day? so brighten your smile a healthy way with listerine® whitening plus restoring rinse. it's the only rinse that makes your teeth two shades whiter and two times stronger. ♪ listerine® whitening... power to your mouth. >>> welcome back to debate night in america. there you s
we're going to hear from michelle obama and ann romney on their debate advice. one of them gets moesh. we'll be right back. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my...